You know, I live in Michigan... I've worked with a lot ...

You know, I live in Michigan... I've worked with a lot of guys who make a lot more money than I do and have won awards and all that. I don't brood about it, but it's there, and everybody wishes they were recognized more, appreciated more. So I just kind of took that, poured gasoline on it and lit it. Then I had (Bernard). Then he was there.