Teams have been able to get after them. We're kind of ...

Teams have been able to get after them. We're kind of in the same situation. We're almost mirror images of each other. The offenses haven't probably been doing as well as they want to, and the defenses have been playing solid and they've been winning on defense the games that they've won, same with us. What they're going to give us, we're going to give them. We just can't turn the ball over.